Leadership: It’s Not a Role, It’s a Relationship

#LeadandLift | Episode 135 | Wendi Swanson

What if everything you thought you knew about leadership was wrong? In this eye-opening blog (episode 135 of the Lead and Lift podcast), Chabidaye Jaglal Ramnath sits down with leadership expert Wendi Swanson to challenge the myths around leadership. It’s not about titles, traits, or fancy strategies—it’s about relationships. They explore how true leadership is built through intentional growth, influence, and putting people before processes. If you’ve ever questioned your impact or wondered what it really takes to lead, this episode will shift your perspective in a powerful way.

Here’s what you’ll learn in this episode: 

  • Leadership is a choice, not a trait
  • Followership is a real measure
  • People over processes
  • Coaching unlocks potential  

Here’s a glance at this episode:

  • True leadership isn’t innate—it’s developed through intentional growth, coaching, and a commitment to serving others.
  • If no one is following, you’re not leading. Leadership is about influence, not titles or authority. 
  • Organizations often prioritize systems, but real success comes from investing in people, fostering connection, and supporting their growth. 
  • From small personal gestures to embracing adversity, coaching is the key to unlocking a team’s motivation, innovation, and limitless potential. 

"The measurement of leadership is followership." — Wendi Swanson

Leadership isn’t a role you step into—it’s a relationship you build. As Chabidaye and Wendi shared, it’s the everyday commitment to serve, grow, and coach others that defines your influence. Whether you’re leading a team or just beginning your journey, remember: your ability to lead is measured by your ability to inspire others to follow. Now’s the time to choose leadership on purpose—and unlock the full potential within yourself and your people.


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